Comments on: Only three days to go http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/ The Life & Times of a Hypothetical Dead Man Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:59:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CarnivorousVulgaris http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-333 CarnivorousVulgaris Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:51:19 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-333 Democracy wins by defeating a treaty that would have rendered the European Union even more democratic. I think that's Sod's Law (or Murphy's?). Democracy wins by defeating a treaty that would have rendered the European Union even more democratic. I think that’s Sod’s Law (or Murphy’s?).

]]> By: David http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-314 David Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:14:14 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-314 I can't believe he never came back. Tsch. Proverbial painting yourself into a corner... I can’t believe he never came back.

Tsch. Proverbial painting yourself into a corner…

]]> By: Stephen http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-311 Stephen Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:14:50 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-311 Sorry about taking the wrong way, but I just had a rather large angry Sinn Féin woman in being all racist and vote no or hundreds of foreigners will come and steal my house, or some such and then I come here and see the same thing, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and look at all you fancy people with your articles and supreme court rulings. Sorry about taking the wrong way, but I just had a rather large angry Sinn Féin woman in being all racist and vote no or hundreds of foreigners will come and steal my house, or some such and then I come here and see the same thing, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and look at all you fancy people with your articles and supreme court rulings.

]]> By: Colm http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-310 Colm Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:19:26 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-310 Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're telling me that <a href="http://www.reformtreaty.ie/eutreaty/Twenty-eighth-Amendment-of-the-Constitution-Bill-2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">this constitutional amendment</a> will overturn <a href="http://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IESC/1987/4.html" rel="nofollow">this Supreme Court ruling</a>. I'm sure there must be any number of passages in there that back up such a bold statement, so feel free to quote some of them. I'll be here all day. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you’re telling me that this constitutional amendment will overturn this Supreme Court ruling. I’m sure there must be any number of passages in there that back up such a bold statement, so feel free to quote some of them. I’ll be here all day.

]]> By: Caoimhin http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-309 Caoimhin Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:42:19 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-309 Colm, that is a true enough quote, what it doesn't say is that the only reason Ireland gets to have a referendum this time is because we are being asked to change our Constitution. Once the Constitution is changed in this way there is no legal obligation to offer the Irish people a referendum on any other changes in EU laws, treaties or amendments. Colm, that is a true enough quote, what it doesn’t say is that the only reason Ireland gets to have a referendum this time is because we are being asked to change our Constitution. Once the Constitution is changed in this way there is no legal obligation to offer the Irish people a referendum on any other changes in EU laws, treaties or amendments.

]]> By: Colm http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-308 Colm Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:29:37 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-308 Stephen, I'm taking the piss. I'm all about the Yes vote. I fear I may have fallen afoul of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law#Parodies_and_fundamentalism" rel="nofollow">Poe's Law</a>. Johnny, cheers. Although you've been around drunk Colm enough to know what I'm on about. Caoimhin, Article 48 Subsection 4: <blockquote>A conference of representatives of the governments of the Member States shall be convened by the President of the Council for the purpose of determining by common accord the amendments to be made to the Treaties. The amendments shall enter into force after being ratified by all the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.</blockquote> Rosie, mildly confused but I take it you're voting no. Stephen, I’m taking the piss. I’m all about the Yes vote. I fear I may have fallen afoul of Poe’s Law.

Johnny, cheers. Although you’ve been around drunk Colm enough to know what I’m on about.

Caoimhin, Article 48 Subsection 4:

A conference of representatives of the governments of the Member States shall be
convened by the President of the Council for the purpose of determining by common accord
the amendments to be made to the Treaties.
The amendments shall enter into force after being ratified by all the Member States
in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

Rosie, mildly confused but I take it you’re voting no.

]]> By: Rosie http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Rosie Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:37:25 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-307 i'm convinced. mind you, i was voting that way anyway. i’m convinced. mind you, i was voting that way anyway.

]]> By: Caoimhin http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-306 Caoimhin Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:54:22 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-306 Stephen: Article 48 lays open the door for future decisions to be made without any further referendums or interference from the voters. While there is nothing blatantly offensive within the new treaty there are loopholes which can be manipulated to ignore the citizens. Similarly Articles 16 and 188 combined create a framework by which healthcare, education, and social services can be auctioned off to private corporations, if these options are used it opens up possibilities for abuse by profit seeking institutions. Once enacted the Treaty and it's positions will be impossible to retract. Stephen: Article 48 lays open the door for future decisions to be made without any further referendums or interference from the voters. While there is nothing blatantly offensive within the new treaty there are loopholes which can be manipulated to ignore the citizens. Similarly Articles 16 and 188 combined create a framework by which healthcare, education, and social services can be auctioned off to private corporations, if these options are used it opens up possibilities for abuse by profit seeking institutions. Once enacted the Treaty and it’s positions will be impossible to retract.

]]> By: johnny http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-305 johnny Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:24:29 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-305 I think colm is slagging the posters in dublin stephen. I think colm is slagging the posters in dublin stephen.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.emesq.com/main/2008/06/09/only-three-days-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-304 Stephen Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:33:14 +0000 http://www.emesq.com/main/?p=72#comment-304 Why vote no? Give me one reason that is sound to make me vote no. Why vote no? Give me one reason that is sound to make me vote no.

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